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Lady Lee
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Sending/taking lambs to the March
by Lady Lee inin bill's initial post about getting ready for the march he mentioned that if anyone could not go but wanted to send a lamb for the march to find someone who was going and was willing to take them to leave in front of bethel .
i have three small lambs.
one for my sister (who has left the jws but suffers greatly due to the abuse) .
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Baptism - The Issue of Consent - for children
by Lady Lee inthe issue of consent .
the issue of whether a person has consented to a particular action is a core part of our social relationships whether they be personal or group interactions.
to participate in any social relationship a person must on some level consent to that participation.
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Lady Lee
Gary and yes that is the bottom line - the DFing and shunning that comes from not following every unwritten letter of this contract a child makes with an organization
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Matthew 23 and the WTS
by Lady Lee inthe following is a beginning to something i have been thinking about for a long time.
any ideas or additional thoughts would be appreciated.
lee.
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Lady Lee
Thank you all for adding to the discussion. You have given me a few more thoughts on how to develop this furtther
Edited by - lady lee on 8 September 2002 12:46:36
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How Have U Changed since Leaving?
by patio34 ini've been thinking about changes in my world view lately and wonder if others have had a similarly subtle, yet profound, outlook on life.
not being a jw nor even a believer anymore has made a subtle change that ive observed.
to begin with, i read somewhere that people tend to bring their own standards to their religion.
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Lady Lee
Some more
I am
- free to celebrate life and holidays, birthdays and even death
- free to love God without being told what to believe and how to believe
- free to sleep in on weekends
- free to spend my holidays on vacation instead of at a DC
- free to write about what hurts me
- free to be honest - really honest - not false honesty
- free to be happy - really happy - not fake happiness
- free to be a Christian (or whatever it is I am)
- free to talk to active JWs who come to my door (despite the fact that I was told by the elders not to)
- free to sing the anthem, salute the flag and be proud of my Canadian country
- free to have pets instead of wondering what to do with them when i went to DC
- free to talk to all of you and post here and anywhere I want on the internet
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Humanitarian assistance
by garybuss in"discretion should be used in determining what, if any, assistance might be given on a humanitarian basis to those not having a good standing in the congregation.
("pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock" wtb&ts 1991 p. 22).
i was associated with the watch tower bible and tract society of new york and pennsylvania, also known as, jehovah's witnesses.
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Lady Lee
In reading this I am reminded how an abused wife feels. Most often they are very accepting of little things. They don't even think they deserve anything better or more. They give and give and give only to be told they are selfish and should be thankful for what they do get (that is very little). They think they are alone in their misery
Sadly the borg teaches people to be victims
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How Have U Changed since Leaving?
by patio34 ini've been thinking about changes in my world view lately and wonder if others have had a similarly subtle, yet profound, outlook on life.
not being a jw nor even a believer anymore has made a subtle change that ive observed.
to begin with, i read somewhere that people tend to bring their own standards to their religion.
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Lady Lee
Let's see.
I am
- free to be more tolerant of others' beliefs
- free to be more tolerant of other's lifestyles (because they are none of my business
- free to be able to do things I love (lots more time and no one telling me I can't)
- free to show my love and care for others without worrying that it takes time from the borg
- free to get an education that has improved my self-esteem
- free to get therapy which had taken away my depression and improved my self-esteem
- free to be really happy
- free to live in a way that I feel good about
- free to watch/read/listen to what I want without fear
- free to buy what I want without fear (especially at garage sales)
- free to live without fears of demons attacking me
- free to live without thinking the elders are coming to talk to me
- free to let my children lead their own lives without preaching to them
- free to live my life without preaching to anyone
- free to live THIS life withou worrying about getting into paradise
- free to publically speak out against the things I think are bad like abuse and cults
- free to accept myself for who I am today
- free to change what I don't like about myself
- free to not see my family who makes me feel like crap
- free to leave an abusive husband
- free to see those members of my family that I care for and treat me with love
- free to no longer be a victim (of people or of the borg)
Edited by - lady lee on 8 September 2002 10:38:53
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Humanitarian assistance
by garybuss in"discretion should be used in determining what, if any, assistance might be given on a humanitarian basis to those not having a good standing in the congregation.
("pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock" wtb&ts 1991 p. 22).
i was associated with the watch tower bible and tract society of new york and pennsylvania, also known as, jehovah's witnesses.
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Lady Lee
Gary I feel so sad and angry for what you and your wife went through.
I have seen this happen to others. I could not stand by and do nothing and recieved the anger of the elders for helping a sister who chose to die at home with her family. I could not get people in the congregation to help. I have an idea of what you went through by watching this dear lady's family struggle to care for her and get to meetings.
The insanity of this just amazes me although you would think after living it with someone I wouldn't be surprised. But the lack of love and simple caring always surprises me.
How sad and how unChristian
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Personal contact with "ABUSE"
by breeze inabuse in family....
i have had two problems with abuse in my family.
both instances were many years ago.. my older uncle 38, had some financial problems so i decide to help him, he move into my hometown and started to go back to school.
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Lady Lee
Breeze I am so sorry to hear that this kind of abuse has touched your family too.
We cannot fear everyone nor protect our children every single moment of their lives. We do our best. And even then sometimes things happen.
Be glad you took action to protect the children. They learned they could trust you.And they learned that they had the power to stop the cycle of abuse
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UPDATE ON VICKI BOER CHILD ABUSE TRIAL
by Scully innews release.
the upcoming september 9, 2002 child abuse civil court trial of victoria boer v. the canadian jehovahs witnesses organization 10:00 am, courtroom 4-4, 361 university avenue, toronto, ontario as reported in the september 1, 2002 edition of the toronto sun.
silentlambs inc. (www.silentlambs.org) accuses the jehovahs witnesses (jws) organization of fostering an environment for child rape, ignoring abuse survivors, protecting child molesters and expelling jehovahs witnesses who have tried to support the victims and alert the public.
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Lady Lee
Well Done to all involved
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Sexual Offender in my hall.
by PandaJ inso my wife calls me and says, "my mom told me there is a sexual offender in our hall, but she won't tell me who!".
i have a small child, so i obviously want to know.
her mom tells her a website where she can search for sexual offenders, www.criminalfiles.info.
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Lady Lee
Now wopuldn't it be interesting if you followed him out in service and got a picture of him going door to door alone!!!